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Exactly, that's why I've made a mod which allows you to actually destroy the thieves guild (check it out on skyrim nexus : WIP - Destroy the Thieves Guild at Skyrim Nexus - Skyrim mods and community, note this is a work in progress and a lot of things can change). For Brand-Shei ;).
Interesting discussion, dagmar clearly seems to defend Saadia. I did turned Saadia in almost every save (I went to the Bannered Mare, found Saadia, listen to her and went to the stables of Whiterun immediately. If you're lucky they are still on the road nearby and you can catch up with them)...