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Thanks for the support! What camp are you speaking of though?

Curious, define 'pre-Helgen comsequences'? Not trying to sound cynical.

I think I'm going to start doing a few scenes and happenings that don't happen in the game. Just to make things more interesting and unique. Maybe.

I don't recall anybody ever winning a point. You never allowed real logic to seep in so it was impossible to win fairly.

This debate, or 'without debate' (which obviously it is up to debate), is over. You refuse to listen or give reasons. Just vague statements.

Except it's not more developed. It's tedious to go through it, and quests don't give clear objectives. And I hope you're joking in terms of the options, because Skyrims is fantastic. And the hp/mg/stma is in my opinion much better than attributes. Attributes made your character seem like a...

What you just wrote right there is not legible. Can you rewrite it? Your words are all jumbled to the point I don't even know what your saying.

Morrowind's journal was a sin. That's my entire argument currently because, well that's what your argument was just based on.

I have reason why it has worth. And it was reason enough to replace pure text. And I'm not entirely sure what you meant right there about the fallout games. You'll need to rephrase. I don't see how voice acting replaced a proper journal and map, as well as direction and in-game mechanics. The...

Your beyond convincing. Your not listening. You're literally speaking false facts. Your views on voice acting are strange, as you're the only person I know that opposes it. I'm guessing Morrowind is your thing then. Voice acting adds immersion, excitement, and gives emotion to NPC's. The fact...

Are you trying to be unreasonable? Shouts are novel. They're new. Novel means new. True story. That aside, for something to be a gimmick, it doesn't need to replace anything. Voice acting replaces nothing. To bring spell making into this is ridiculous and irrelevant.

Reread your post, and realize how ridiculous you sound: Shouts aren't needed. They're a novel and ingenious device to attract attention. *ahem* Gimmick *ahem*

Gimmick - An ingenious or novel device, scheme, or stratagem, especially one designed to attract attention or increase appeal. Shouts are definetly a gimmick. I agree with Commando on this one.

I think the perks are fine, and the removal of attributes was awesome since honestly, attributes were one of the worst parts of Oblivion. Also, the game is pretty difficult for me, and others. So I don't see any reason to be upset about a broken difficulty system.

The only ones I can imagine that would be realistic, are most of the high tier perks (like Conditioning, Shadow Warrior, etc.)

Do you commonly use exploits? Getting a skill up naturally is fun, unlike tedious speech exploits. Also, alchemy is a blast if you still have the mystery of ingredient effects. It feels like your actually progressing. That aside, I find enchanting to be a good money maker too.

It'd would help to know the plot of it, as it'd likely tied to it. I think some will just turn into powers though.

I've updated the rules with things regarding obtaining perks.

I find slow down perks to be somewhat realistic since it's just heightened reactions.