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True. She's definately not the best and the brightest, but, still. We are not her equals. As the game never acknowledges us and we cannot kill her, there is very little point in even hating her. Just use her for what she's worth and move on. She really can't hurt you either and at least you can Fus her once in a while to make yourself feel better.
At least as High King, Maven would be obligated to treat you with respect though! Or else...
Yeah, but it's pretty much in name only. YOU still have to do all the grunt work that you should be able to assign to underlings. And everyone still treats you the same afterward. Farengar still comments that you should go join the College of Winterhold even if you're the friggin' Archmage. I like to think I would've sent him a memo to let him know that little tidbit.
Not to go too far OT, but what dictates who you are and your station in real life has nothing to do with friends in high places, or money, or power. It's how you treat others, every day you walk out the door. The small chances every day to make someone else's life a little better, even if its as simple as saying hello or buying someone food who can't afford it. In my opinion, how you treat people and yourself is what makes you a good person. Not a large savings account.
Ah to be so naive and idealistic again. While it is nice to do the things you noted and may help your karma, the reality is, we live in a world where money, power and who you know are the only things that count. Not your deeds. And nobody really cares how you treat other people (unless you commit a crime that is). Pragmatically speaking, just because I'm nice to people, give to charity and help out my friends and neighbors, it really means jack squat in our society. You have no influence and you really don't matter. It's just a fact of life and always has been so. It is only the very rare person that does good deeds that actually influences the world. I wish it wasn't true, but, unfortunately, it is. Rewards in the next life are no substitute for this one apparently.
Mjoll has little insight into the Thieves Guild which is why her campaign against them is futile. There is loyalty within the Thieves Guild with one notable exception. I actually stopped using Mjoll as a follower because it seemed mean spirited to be the Guild Master and have her trekking around with me like a clueless fool.
You restore the Trinity as part of the steps towards lifting the curse on the Thieves Guild and restoring Nocturnal's blessing on it. Simply killing Mercer won't do that.
This was extremely frustrating, especially because it's the largest Guild in Skyrim. Thankfully I have mods that change this. Not only do I have them as followers but I can have up to three of them at the same time.
There are none. There is a quest where you have to extort money from people and have the option to beat the up to get them to pay but there is also an option in every case where that can be avoided.
You didn't get the memo?
Ah... Dagmar... a breath of fresh(?) and informative air...
Why would you consider them the "Robin Hoods" of Skyrim? Sure they may steal from the rich, but they really are equal opportunity. They steal from the poor, the middle class and just about everybody else they can steal from. They also don't give anything to the poor. They just keep it for themselves. I'll not say that they're all bad people (I actually like a few of them), but they certainly aren't "Robin Hoods" in my opinion, they're more just "Hoods".
The Thieves Guild of Cyrodiil in ES IV Oblivion was like that but the Thieves Guild of Skyrim has no affiliations with the beggars and the beggars are neither its beneficiaries nor its eyes and ears.
The people they are extorting money from are hardly high profile. They're working class people. Their marks are varied in their station in life and very few of them are aristocrats. They don't pay beggars for information. Again that was a function in Oblivion but it isn't in Skyrim.
That's something that annoyed me about the Dark Brotherhood, they killed off way too many members. They could have spared 1 or 2 more members, preferably Veezara and Festus Krex. The night mother is creepy, I hate those endless jobs from the old bag of bones. I wish there was more advantages of being The Listener
Maybe to you, but I'm the sensitive sort...
Yup! You hit the nail on the head. Besides, as I said, I wasn't a big fan of the DB storyline. So many bodies. Next time I'm just going to kill 'em all and get it over with. You don't get anything from it. Just wish I could wipe out the thieves and be done with it. SlaughterSo your moral compass allows you to end the lives of people you don't know for money and your own status, but stealing a few trinkets here and there is too much?
Okay
I see you point, though
; stealing crap
So true! I actually like Maven better than the SilverBloods. Maven reminds me of my Mom... oops, sorry Mom, don't mean to give away your secrets... please don't have me beaten up!Everyone seems to have an issue with Maven, but ignores the Silver-Bloods are basically like her in every way. They extort businesses to gain ownership, they own the guards, they can decide who goes to prison and who doesn't. They use the Forsworn as assassins to kill whoever they want. Maven isn't the only Jarl with questionable moral standards, stop picking on her.
