About skills

[mrlymric]

say my sneak skill 100 and i have all the perks in sneak skill tree, do my ring of sneak ( sneaking is 10% better ) and several other pieces of gear that has sneak on them have any effects on me, still to use those pieces of gear?

also i have the muffled spell in sneak and i have nightingale boots that says wearer is muffled and moves silently does that still do me good to wear those boots even tho i have the muffle perk in sneak tree?

same goes for my archery skill 100 and i have every perk in the skill tree, does my circlet of eminent archery ( bows do 30% more damage) and other several pieces of gear i wear that gives me % to bows do more damage, have any effect on me on keep wearing these pieces of gear?

and last question do all these skill trees and all perks maxed out, does any gear or spells you do that makes the skill more powerful good to wear or use or just not work better so waist to use the gear or cast the spell? ( very sorry did not know how to explain this question )

 

[AS88]

I can answer the second one for you

Trinkets with Fortify Archery will still boost your damage, even when you're at skill level 100. I've done this numerous times, as I've had a few characters hit 100 archery.

 

[mrlymric]

Ok cool thats one questioned answered now i just need answers to my sneak question and muffle gear to wear and then last 3rd question please

 

[Twiffle]

The muffle perk only gives 50% reduction in noise, the silence gives 100% reduction in noise, you can stack muffle enchantments, but once you are silent thats it, sneek skill then comes from how you actually sneek, such as staying in the shadows and away from line of sight, movement can be sight not just noise.

Hope this helps mate,

 

[wrighty]

boots with muffle are 50% effective so with the muffle perk they are 100%, but self enchanted boots are 100% muffle and the spell is 100% muffle. Once you reach 100% muffle anything else is not effective.
When your sneak 100 with all stealth perks you will have 40% better sneak, you can fortify up to 100% for sneak so your ring adds 10% and with your stealth perks thats 50% so you could fortify upto 50% more, over 100 fortify sneak seems to glitch it and make your sneaking worse.
Archery can be fortified any amount.

So for muffle to max it all you need to do is cast the spell, or you could wear self enchanted boots, or you could wear muffle boots that are already in the game like nightingale boots which makes you 50% muffled then you either need a muffle perk for the other 50% or to cast the spell as well which is pointless as then it is overkill having the boots.
remember that 50% muffle of nightingale armor is very different to 50% muffle of deadric armor as daedric is much heavier, so the lightest weight armor or clothing would actually be best.

 

[mrlymric]

Awesome tyvm all, all my questions have been answered

 

[mrlymric]

WOOT i have 3 pieces of armor with archery one them, one of them enchanted , gives me a total of 92% more bow damage

 

[mrlymric]

Got a question i have the muffled perk in sneak skill tree and i have the nightingale boots that says wearer is muffled and moves silently NOW i also have these Boots i have enchanted to have sneaking is 32% better and a Ring of Minor Sneaking that says Sneaking is is 15% better, so thats a total of 47% sneaking is better.

Is My Nightingale Boots better with the ring OR is my boots 32% sneak and the ring sneak 15% better?

sorry still little bit confused on the muffled on gear and also making my own enchantment muffle to put on a gear piece and also on the sneaking

 

[Twiffle]

Got a question i have the muffled perk in sneak skill tree and i have the nightingale boots that says wearer is muffled and moves silently NOW i also have these Boots i have enchanted to have sneaking is 32% better and a Ring of Minor Sneaking that says Sneaking is is 15% better, so thats a total of 47% sneaking is better.

Is My Nightingale Boots better with the ring OR is my boots 32% sneak and the ring sneak 15% better?

sorry still little bit confused on the muffled on gear and also making my own enchantment muffle to put on a gear piece and also on the sneaking

boots with muffle,, you are silent

 

[mrlymric]

ok cool tyvm

 

[mrlymric]

I'm using a Ebony Bow of Fiery Souls damage 93

After changng armor around and enchanting armor, i now have total of 116% more bow damage.

Elven Gauntlets of Archery bows do 37% more damage
Silver Ring (Enchanted Archery) bows do 32% more damage
Orcish Helmet (Enchanted Archery) bows do 37% more damage
Gold Necklace (Enchanted Archery) bows do 10% more damage

WOOT Total of 116

sorry very excited had to post it rofl, not sure anything past 100 does anything but least i do have 100% bow damage.

 

[Twiffle]

but remember, while sneaking pay attention to line of sight and stick to the shadows or you may be spotted,

 

[mrlymric]

Ah yes i need to remember that, sometimes i don't and always end up making stupid mistakes, TYVM i needed to be reminded that

 

[mrlymric]

Ok on a serious note, up above i posted my bow and all ,my gear i wear which puts % of bow do more damage 116%,.

Can you really go beyond 100% and it counts ?

IF so, do you also add in the initial damage of the bow, like my Ebony bow of Fiery Souls damage 93?

Ok countiing everything in, how does it compute my total damage would be at, right now with what all i have?

 

[Twiffle]

Easy to find out what damage you are doing,
1. unequip all of the enchanted items
2. equip the bow and when viewd in the menu it says its damage.
3, re-equip your enchanted items one by one and watch it rise
4. when you have all items equiped it will show the max damage of the bow incl the arrows

hope this helps,

 

[mrlymric]

Ok i did all that and included the arrows i am at damage 113, awesome tyvm

sorry i am bad at math so wasn't sure how much % of each gear i wore that would go in effect on the bow cause adding up the % it adds to 116 not counting the bow and arrows, so i am guessing it only takes a certain percent of each item i wear not the whole %,

Because dong what you said which i did, equip the bow then the ebony arrows and then all 4 pieces of my armor, one at a time, and the down at very bottom of screen it shows Damage 113.

 

[Twiffle]

then the 113 is the damabe of your bow now,, you can check for other items to useing the same method sword etc.

 

[mrlymric]

Awesome, now i understand how it works TYVM

 

[JoeReese]

Easy to find out what damage you are doing,
1. unequip all of the enchanted items
2. equip the bow and when viewd in the menu it says its damage.
3, re-equip your enchanted items one by one and watch it rise
4. when you have all items equiped it will show the max damage of the bow incl the arrows

hope this helps,

Dang it, Twiffle, ya beat me to it.

 

[JoeReese]

I'm using a Ebony Bow of Fiery Souls damage 93

After changng armor around and enchanting armor, i now have total of 116% more bow damage.

Elven Gauntlets of Archery bows do 37% more damage
Silver Ring (Enchanted Archery) bows do 32% more damage
Orcish Helmet (Enchanted Archery) bows do 37% more damage
Gold Necklace (Enchanted Archery) bows do 10% more damage

WOOT Total of 116

sorry very excited had to post it rofl, not sure anything past 100 does anything but least i do have 100% bow damage.

I may be missing something, but I see that the necklace is only 10%. If you're able to enchant in the 30s, you may wish to make and enchant a new necklace. Remember to take an Enchanter's Elixir right before you hit the enchanter, and use a grand/black gem.

Also, have you upsmithed the bow? Are you an ebony smith? If not, try making/upsmithing a bow in something you are perked as a smith in, and see if it gives you as much/higher base damage. May help a little.