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Psychoanalysis

Is it possible to program a human being into their world view?


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Nephilim

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The programming involved in Skyrim is excellent, I could only imagine the amount of man hours that went into it. I want to address a question some might get mad at me for asking or some might respond with great answers. Is it in all possibility to use the process of conditioning and psychoanalysis to in favor manipulate the mind of a human being? Such as programming the mind to fit into a preferred state? Now I want you to take the following things into consideration.
Religion
Education
Money
Political Encompass told you your life's design,
If there was no money how would you buy your time?
Are you a grim reaper, or a knowledge seeker?
A dead life resurrector, or a pay check collector?
A fallacy protector, or a real truth projector?
Are you bio-chip free, or Babylon dejected?
 
The programming involved in Skyrim is excellent, I could only imagine the amount of man hours that went into it. I want to address a question some might get mad at me for asking or some might respond with great answers. Is it in all possibility to use the process of conditioning and psychoanalysis to in favor manipulate the mind of a human being? Such as programming the mind to fit into a preferred state? Now I want you to take the following things into consideration.
Religion
Education
Money
Political Encompass told you your life's design,
If there was no money how would you buy your time?
Are you a grim reaper, or a knowledge seeker?
A dead life resurrector, or a pay check collector?
A fallacy protector, or a real truth projector?
Are you bio-chip free, or Babylon dejected?

I'm a little confused about what you're asking. :confused: Are you essentially asking if it's possible to hypnotize someone, or to use subliminal messaging in such a way that it changes the person's personality?
 
The programming involved in Skyrim is excellent, I could only imagine the amount of man hours that went into it. I want to address a question some might get mad at me for asking or some might respond with great answers. Is it in all possibility to use the process of conditioning and psychoanalysis to in favor manipulate the mind of a human being? Such as programming the mind to fit into a preferred state? Now I want you to take the following things into consideration.
Religion
Education
Money
Political Encompass told you your life's design,
If there was no money how would you buy your time?
Are you a grim reaper, or a knowledge seeker?
A dead life resurrector, or a pay check collector?
A fallacy protector, or a real truth projector?
Are you bio-chip free, or Babylon dejected?

I have no fuuuukin idea what that means, well thats a little lie I get it a bit, none the less Im giving u rep for that poem at the bottom, and I will try give u an answer.

my view is it is 100% possible to condition a human to make them think/feel/act how u would want them to, U could make a human do anything u wanted to and make him/her anything u wanted them to be. but I think the only way that would be possible would be to get a human from birth keep the human from any outside influences people/media just life in general and just brainwash/programme/mold them to ure very will. I hope I got what u mean also please dont try it you will be jaild lol.
 
I do have a mom and a daughter so I have nothing against women but ... women are smarter than man and they know how to make you do things easily. I do agree also with ShadowKing. I also believe science is working on that now and probably they have the virus ready to be used on humans to make them zombies and to do what they want you to do. If you could dominate your mind, you will be completely in charge of yourself. If you can dominate others mind, you will make them do anything for you. They are working on it !! :mad:
 
Is it possible to program views into another person? Is that what you are asking? If you ask anyone in the media they would say yes.

But essentially your parents have tried 'programming' their views into you. So this isn't necessarily evil, just a by-product of having an opinion.
 
Is it possible to program views into another person? Is that what you are asking? If you ask anyone in the media they would say yes.

But essentially your parents have tried 'programming' their views into you. So this isn't necessarily evil, just a by-product of having an opinion.
Having worked in marketing, it is their firm belief that you can. Of course, they also think people are stupid. They may be right too, given the idiocy of modern advertising.

I wonder how this would be translatible to Skyrim. Maybe I should open a marketing agency for Talos worshippers and get dem dern Thalmer off their backs. Now that I think about it I betcha the Forswarn, the Storm Cloaks and the Imperials would be clients too...
 
I'm a little confused about what you're asking. :confused: Are you essentially asking if it's possible to hypnotize someone, or to use subliminal messaging in such a way that it changes the person's personality?

Perhaps I could have worded the question a little better, but I was in a rush writing that at work. Programming is culture. Your culture programs you into viewing the world, however that may be through media propaganda, religion, and most of all education, because you are specifically conditioned through education to fit the current paradigm. Do you think you were programmed into your world view?
 
The programming involved in Skyrim is excellent, I could only imagine the amount of man hours that went into it. I want to address a question some might get mad at me for asking or some might respond with great answers. Is it in all possibility to use the process of conditioning and psychoanalysis to in favor manipulate the mind of a human being? Such as programming the mind to fit into a preferred state? Now I want you to take the following things into consideration.
Religion
Education
Money
Political Encompass told you your life's design,
If there was no money how would you buy your time?
Are you a grim reaper, or a knowledge seeker?
A dead life resurrector, or a pay check collector?
A fallacy protector, or a real truth projector?
Are you bio-chip free, or Babylon dejected?



just google 'Illuminati'' , i think you will find your answer,
 
Perhaps I could have worded the question a little better, but I was in a rush writing that at work. Programming is culture. Your culture programs you into viewing the world, however that may be through media propaganda, religion, and most of all education, because you are specifically conditioned through education to fit the current paradigm. Do you think you were programmed into your world view?

With all my due respect to you, I think you are asking in this forum, very private questions that in my opinion do not fit properly here. :cool:
 
Perhaps I could have worded the question a little better, but I was in a rush writing that at work. Programming is culture. Your culture programs you into viewing the world, however that may be through media propaganda, religion, and most of all education, because you are specifically conditioned through education to fit the current paradigm. Do you think you were programmed into your world view?

I think Twiffle is right, Illuminati just screams from ure question lol :)
 
Perhaps I could have worded the question a little better, but I was in a rush writing that at work. Programming is culture. Your culture programs you into viewing the world, however that may be through media propaganda, religion, and most of all education, because you are specifically conditioned through education to fit the current paradigm. Do you think you were programmed into your world view?

When you say 'program' I believe you are implying some sort of manipulation. Otherwise you would just say 'does your experience affect your world view?' Manipulation is deception. So, no, I do not believe someone intentionally deceived me into my world view to "program" me. Such a statement is too high a level of conspiracy for me to believe to be real. However, to say that one's world experiences influence one's views is almost a self evident statement.
 
Please I really mean no disrespect, the question should not be looked at society programming you. Whether how you mold the program yourself. Regardless of how individual we think we all our, most of our held perspectives can be credited from outside sources. Not our own.
 
Please I really mean no disrespect, the question should not be looked at society programming you. Whether how you mold the program yourself. Regardless of how individual we think we all our, most of our held perspectives can be credited from outside sources. Not our own.
I actually do agree with you for most people. There are those of us out there though, that, through our own experiences have created our own societal attitudes that are often at odds with what the standard is. I would suspect that this is more of a question of Nature vs. Nuture.
 
This isn't Psychoanalysis, that's Psychiactric Diagnosis, or asking questions to figure out what the problem is. What you're talking about is Psychoactive, or Cognitive Conditioning, or "brainwashing." While it is possible, and has been done, there's a lot more we don't know about the mind, how it works, or doesn't than we do. This means it's not so much a linear causual process like "If I do this, that happens" but more like Stimulus Response, which can be unpredictible in normal human interactions.

Let me put it this way,m you know your SO pretty good (Assuming you're in, have been, or at least witnessed a Long Term Relationship.) Now, you come home, say something, and all of a sudden, get a completely incomprehensible reaction. Happens all the time, if not to you to someone you've known or seen, and it's generally as inoccuous as what you want on the Pizza tonight.

Now, let's look at what someone unethical enough to get into Mind Control (Like me, for example) would actually use it for. Personal profit, turncoating, sexual gratification, or Dominance/reassurance. At the relatively easy end of the scale, you can use it to get someone's money, or other valuables. This is you garden variety Mugging. You can try Strong Arm first, if you're big, and intimidating enough, but that's not going to reliably get the goods, eventually you're going to run into a martial artists, veteran, or gun owner, and your career as a Manipulative menace is relatively short lived. This is why they often go for Forced Compliance, which generally boils down to pulling out a gun before asking for their wallet.

That's Entry Level, and it still doesn't always work. Not to mention the fact that there's almost always a safer, and easier way to go about it. You could instead hit them from behind with a baseball bat, and knock them out before releiving them of their wallet, can of mace, Taser, and EDC pistol. That's really the easiest mind manipulation, turn it off by knocking them out, or breaking it by killing them. Ultimate compliance.

For the higher level stuff, it gets progressively more complex. if I could tell you how I talk a woman out of her clothes using just psychoanalysis, subliminal symbolic suggestion, hypnosis, and so forth, I wouldn't be here in a video game forum, I'd probably be halfway over the Atlantic in my private Jet. This is relatively simple compared to the kind of psychic reprogramming it takes to Stockholm, or Patty Hearst kidnap victims, or posthypnotically program a Manchurian style turncoat/assassin.

For those last few, you have to do things that aren't generally available in a Singles bar. You can't Break an attractive woman in public, someone invariably notices, and puts a stop to it. For me, the most reliable system starts with Sensory Deprivation, (Which also throws off Time Scale) separation from reinforcing stimuli (If you're trying to turn a Marine against America, you don't want the Stars, and Stripes visible, nor do you want to try and Break a Christian under a Crucifix.) Torture tends to be counterproductive, because at some point you have to gain Trust. You cannot Hypnotize someone against their will if they don't trust you, and most other techniques (Short of Chemical Interrogation) have similar limitations.

This is the only way to get someone to do something against their intrinsic nature. You have to change the Person you're dealing with, from a Marine into an Anti-american terrorist operative, spy, assassin, or saboteur, for example, they have to cease to BE a marine, because a Marine just wouldn't do that. (They were already broken, depersonalized, and reprogrammed by their DIs.) To turn against Amerca, they have to become Unamerican, wiping out all the 'Merrka Fluff Yeah! they've been raised on before you can overwrite with your propaganda revealing US as the selfish suggestible consumption driven polluters they are.

For obvious reasons, I'm not going into any specifics here, as it constitutes treason, and this isn't a secure account/ISP.
 
I get what you're asking but I am a religious man and don't believe in what you're asking. It is possible to control functions of your own body most people can't. For example pain. The human pin cushion sideshow artists do control parts of there body into diverting pain through years of meditation and focus.
 
I get what you're asking but I am a religious man and don't believe in what you're asking. It is possible to control functions of your own body most people can't. For example pain. The human pin cushion sideshow artists do control parts of there body into diverting pain through years of meditation and focus.
Actually, that's all part of the show. Really, they just build up a tolerance over years of self abuse, severed nerves, and so forth. The Story is they met a Fakir in Calcutta that taught them a special chant, but in reality, they're just really numb.
 
This isn't Psychoanalysis, that's Psychiactric Diagnosis, or asking questions to figure out what the problem is. What you're talking about is Psychoactive, or Cognitive Conditioning, or "brainwashing." While it is possible, and has been done, there's a lot more we don't know about the mind, how it works, or doesn't than we do. This means it's not so much a linear causual process like "If I do this, that happens" but more like Stimulus Response, which can be unpredictible in normal human interactions.

Let me put it this way,m you know your SO pretty good (Assuming you're in, have been, or at least witnessed a Long Term Relationship.) Now, you come home, say something, and all of a sudden, get a completely incomprehensible reaction. Happens all the time, if not to you to someone you've known or seen, and it's generally as inoccuous as what you want on the Pizza tonight.

Now, let's look at what someone unethical enough to get into Mind Control (Like me, for example) would actually use it for. Personal profit, turncoating, sexual gratification, or Dominance/reassurance. At the relatively easy end of the scale, you can use it to get someone's money, or other valuables. This is you garden variety Mugging. You can try Strong Arm first, if you're big, and intimidating enough, but that's not going to reliably get the goods, eventually you're going to run into a martial artists, veteran, or gun owner, and your career as a Manipulative menace is relatively short lived. This is why they often go for Forced Compliance, which generally boils down to pulling out a gun before asking for their wallet.

That's Entry Level, and it still doesn't always work. Not to mention the fact that there's almost always a safer, and easier way to go about it. You could instead hit them from behind with a baseball bat, and knock them out before releiving them of their wallet, can of mace, Taser, and EDC pistol. That's really the easiest mind manipulation, turn it off by knocking them out, or breaking it by killing them. Ultimate compliance.

For the higher level stuff, it gets progressively more complex. if I could tell you how I talk a woman out of her clothes using just psychoanalysis, subliminal symbolic suggestion, hypnosis, and so forth, I wouldn't be here in a video game forum, I'd probably be halfway over the Atlantic in my private Jet. This is relatively simple compared to the kind of psychic reprogramming it takes to Stockholm, or Patty Hearst kidnap victims, or posthypnotically program a Manchurian style turncoat/assassin.

For those last few, you have to do things that aren't generally available in a Singles bar. You can't Break an attractive woman in public, someone invariably notices, and puts a stop to it. For me, the most reliable system starts with Sensory Deprivation, (Which also throws off Time Scale) separation from reinforcing stimuli (If you're trying to turn a Marine against America, you don't want the Stars, and Stripes visible, nor do you want to try and Break a Christian under a Crucifix.) Torture tends to be counterproductive, because at some point you have to gain Trust. You cannot Hypnotize someone against their will if they don't trust you, and most other techniques (Short of Chemical Interrogation) have similar limitations.

This is the only way to get someone to do something against their intrinsic nature. You have to change the Person you're dealing with, from a Marine into an Anti-american terrorist operative, spy, assassin, or saboteur, for example, they have to cease to BE a marine, because a Marine just wouldn't do that. (They were already broken, depersonalized, and reprogrammed by their DIs.) To turn against Amerca, they have to become Unamerican, wiping out all the 'Merrka Fluff Yeah! they've been raised on before you can overwrite with your propaganda revealing US as the selfish suggestible consumption driven polluters they are.

For obvious reasons, I'm not going into any specifics here, as it constitutes treason, and this isn't a secure account/ISP.

You know what I got out of reading this?

Don't piss Psiberzerker off, ever. :P
 
This isn't Psychoanalysis, that's Psychiactric Diagnosis, or asking questions to figure out what the problem is. What you're talking about is Psychoactive, or Cognitive Conditioning, or "brainwashing." While it is possible, and has been done, there's a lot more we don't know about the mind, how it works, or doesn't than we do. This means it's not so much a linear causual process like "If I do this, that happens" but more like Stimulus Response, which can be unpredictible in normal human interactions.

Let me put it this way,m you know your SO pretty good (Assuming you're in, have been, or at least witnessed a Long Term Relationship.) Now, you come home, say something, and all of a sudden, get a completely incomprehensible reaction. Happens all the time, if not to you to someone you've known or seen, and it's generally as inoccuous as what you want on the Pizza tonight.

Now, let's look at what someone unethical enough to get into Mind Control (Like me, for example) would actually use it for. Personal profit, turncoating, sexual gratification, or Dominance/reassurance. At the relatively easy end of the scale, you can use it to get someone's money, or other valuables. This is you garden variety Mugging. You can try Strong Arm first, if you're big, and intimidating enough, but that's not going to reliably get the goods, eventually you're going to run into a martial artists, veteran, or gun owner, and your career as a Manipulative menace is relatively short lived. This is why they often go for Forced Compliance, which generally boils down to pulling out a gun before asking for their wallet.

That's Entry Level, and it still doesn't always work. Not to mention the fact that there's almost always a safer, and easier way to go about it. You could instead hit them from behind with a baseball bat, and knock them out before releiving them of their wallet, can of mace, Taser, and EDC pistol. That's really the easiest mind manipulation, turn it off by knocking them out, or breaking it by killing them. Ultimate compliance.

For the higher level stuff, it gets progressively more complex. if I could tell you how I talk a woman out of her clothes using just psychoanalysis, subliminal symbolic suggestion, hypnosis, and so forth, I wouldn't be here in a video game forum, I'd probably be halfway over the Atlantic in my private Jet. This is relatively simple compared to the kind of psychic reprogramming it takes to Stockholm, or Patty Hearst kidnap victims, or posthypnotically program a Manchurian style turncoat/assassin.

For those last few, you have to do things that aren't generally available in a Singles bar. You can't Break an attractive woman in public, someone invariably notices, and puts a stop to it. For me, the most reliable system starts with Sensory Deprivation, (Which also throws off Time Scale) separation from reinforcing stimuli (If you're trying to turn a Marine against America, you don't want the Stars, and Stripes visible, nor do you want to try and Break a Christian under a Crucifix.) Torture tends to be counterproductive, because at some point you have to gain Trust. You cannot Hypnotize someone against their will if they don't trust you, and most other techniques (Short of Chemical Interrogation) have similar limitations.

This is the only way to get someone to do something against their intrinsic nature. You have to change the Person you're dealing with, from a Marine into an Anti-american terrorist operative, spy, assassin, or saboteur, for example, they have to cease to BE a marine, because a Marine just wouldn't do that. (They were already broken, depersonalized, and reprogrammed by their DIs.) To turn against Amerca, they have to become Unamerican, wiping out all the 'Merrka Fluff Yeah! they've been raised on before you can overwrite with your propaganda revealing US as the selfish suggestible consumption driven polluters they are.

For obvious reasons, I'm not going into any specifics here, as it constitutes treason, and this isn't a secure account/ISP.

We'll a thinkers response is always good, especially whenever its trying to disprove the terminology used, and to answer the question.
As far as terminology goes, psychoanalysis is the term used by Sigmund Freud to describe the reasoning (analysis) for mental states (psycho). However I can see why you would think this would refer to the explanation of someones mental illness. For obvious reasons such mental programming will and can cause forms of mental illness, perhaps not even recognizable to the individual.

A world view is much different than little mundain procedures such as how to get a girls clothes off. A world view is how you view the rest of the world, and through what filter or "program" you decide to view it upon. If I am a Muslim I view Christians a certain way and vise-versa. Media controls most peoples perspective on other cultures. Not one of us can be classified as Self-Conscious, everything you have learned or heard is programmed, once the indoctrination is complete, those beliefs begin to manipulate the way you used to view it.

Thanks for the response, but I am looking for "world views". If you want to get into consumption, profit, and sustainability yes america is your number one target. But how did you configure such ideologies, are they your own well developed thoughts and or personal experience? Or are you receiving some sort of programming also. Whenever the software(information) can be recognized by the hardware(you) as being reliable, we should then break free from the program and use one thing that makes us unique, our conscious, and our ability to critical think.

Thanks for response, look forward to hearing from you again.
 
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