Imperials or Stormcloaks, what one?

[Vatonage]

Hehehe probably? Ain't no probably about it. hissssssssssssss There would be some 'mixed feelings' on the subject for shor.

I see what you did there.

 

[Raijin]

Because they has MONEY to buy land and he has no other choice than to accept said monies for his 'cause' which will ultimately fl*ff them over.

Bullcrap! Those properties, businesses, and land belongs to the Nords! Remember... "Skyrim is for the Nords!" No matter how poor or how wealthy someone is... they must be a Nord.

 

[Mikulas Black-Blade]

Because they has MONEY to buy land and he has no other choice than to accept said monies for his 'cause' which will ultimately fl*ff them over.

If he was racist he wouldn't even accept it. True Racists don't accept anything from other races.

But what is TRUTH? It's the Dragonborn... it doesn't matter what race you are or what feelings he has he'll use you regardless.

He doesn't know you're the Dragonborn or not until you've joined unless you did Season Unending. Even so a "big bad xenophobic racist like Ulfric" Still would not use you regardless of your power.

 

[LegateFasendil]

If he was racist he wouldn't even accept it. True Racists don't accept anything from other races.

But what is TRUTH? It's the Dragonborn... it doesn't matter what race you are or what feelings he has he'll use you regardless.

He doesn't know you're the Dragonborn or not until you've joined unless you did Season Unending. Even so a "big bad xenophobic racist like Ulfric" Still would not use you regardless of your power.

Is that so? Then, he didn't use Torygg and Rogvir either? He didn't use the Jarl of Markarth or Jarl of Whiterun? Ulfric's not a user then is that what you're saying? Three of the four people I listed were quite powerful but they ALL shared one thing in common... they had something Ulfric needed so he used them at their expense. Come to think of it, he used the Thalmor too but they wanted him to.

I dunno about you Stormcloaks. Alot of wide-eyed dreamers in here... lots of honest hearts but the problem with an honest man is you never know when they're lying.

 

[Vatonage]

Is that so? Then, he didn't use Torygg and Rogvir either? He didn't use the Jarl of Markarth or Jarl of Whiterun? Ulfric's not a user then is that what you're saying? Three of the four people I listed were quite powerful but they ALL shared one thing in common... they had something Ulfric needed so he used them at their expense. Come to think of it, he used the Thalmor too but they wanted him to.

I dunno about you Stormcloaks. Alot of wide-eyed dreamers in here... lots of honest hearts but the problem with an honest man is you never know when they're lying.

Wait a minute... He's a Legate! Member of the Imperial Legion! Of course he backs them! This was a diversion created by the Thalmor!

Fellow Kinsmen, we have been deceived by the elves!

 

[LegateFasendil]

Because they has MONEY to buy land and he has no other choice than to accept said monies for his 'cause' which will ultimately fl*ff them over.

Bullcrap! Those properties, businesses, and land belongs to the Nords! Remember... "Skyrim is for the Nords!" No matter how poor or how wealthy someone is... they must be a Nord.

Ummm Not necessarily. Ulfric, given a choice, would rather have non-Nords with money in his city, rather than non-Nords which he has to spend money on. That's a solid argument. He needs money for the war effort and wars are expensive. Surely he would look the other way for some High Elf from Summerset whose loaded or some Dunmer strapped with cash who purchased his farm. They both had to pay for their land and are taxed.

The premise is solid dude.

 

[Mikulas Black-Blade]

But what is TRUTH? It's the Dragonborn... it doesn't matter what race you are or what feelings he has he'll use you regardless.

He doesn't know you're the Dragonborn or not until you've joined unless you did Season Unending. Even so a "big bad xenophobic racist like Ulfric" Still would not use you regardless of your power.

Is that so? Then, he didn't use Torygg and Rogvir either? He didn't use the Jarl of Markarth or Jarl of Whiterun? Ulfric's not a user then is that what you're saying? Three of the four people I listed were quite powerful but they ALL shared one thing in common... they had something Ulfric needed so he used them at their expense. Come to think of it, he used the Thalmor too but they wanted him to.

I dunno about you Stormcloaks. Alot of wide-eyed dreamers in here... lots of honest hearts but the problem with an honest man is you never know when they're lying.

1.) I'm saying he would not employ you into his army. By "use" I meant "enlist". A true racist wouldn't enlist someone if they were a different race regardless of skill.
2.) How did he use Roggvir exactly? he had no Idea he had died or even who he was.
3.) All those people mentioned above were Nords Sooo.

 

[DrunkenMage]

He maybe a Stormcloak sympathizer but he isn't part of the Stormcloaks. He's just a drunken lout.

What are you talking? Ulfric's steward does do stuffs in the hold. He hired and gave authorization to the Dragonborn to investigate the murders in his hold. He entrusted the Dragonborn to give him full report, and even went over to one of the guards, and had the court wizard arrested for the murders.

The Markarth problems are coming from a corrupted IMPERIAL Jarl who is indulging himself in gold coin.

Rearek: "Igmund, we need to talk about the Silver-Blood family."
Igmund: "What about them? They seem loyal enough."
Rearek: "Loyal? Thongvor supports Ulfric and his Stormcloaks! We should imprison the entire family as a precaution."
Faleen: "I second that, Igmund. Who knows what that family will do for power? They could be working with the Forsworn, for all we know."
Igmund: "Enough! We can't imprison the very people that own the jail we would be throwing them into. The Silver-Blood family are to be left alone, am I clear?"
Faleen: "Yes, my Jarl."
Rearek: "Yes, my Jarl."

I'm not saying he is a Stormcloak, but in his mind he's acting upon their behalf. The Stormcloaks are either ignoring his actions or accepting them, either way it is bad.

He was barely investigating the murders, handing it over to you doesn't mean he's doing anything for the Hold.

Asking Jorleif what duties he performs for the Jarl while Ulfric controls the city will have him say: "For Ulfric? Oh, nothing official. Known him for years. He seems to value my thoughts, and I'm grateful for that. I don't really have a mind for war, and I think he likes having an untrained opinion from time to time."

So Igmund is now corrupt because he won't throw the Silver-Bloods in jail? For what crime? he doesn't exactly have evidence to just throw them in prison, not to mention the prison is guarded by Silver-Blood mercenaries...

What makes you think that? Just because I am not on when that account is on? Maybe I do not get on a lot. If that person said they were me, they were probably lying for laughs. I do not think any number of accounts belong to you just because they do not post for any length of time when you are active.

I'm not playing this game, everyone has known it was you for ages. It has nothing to do with being on at the same time, but the fact you argue the same and personality is the same.

I've debated with all of you for a long time, does everyone think I'm that ignorant when some of you go on alt accounts?

 

[LegateFasendil]

Is that so? Then, he didn't use Torygg and Rogvir either? He didn't use the Jarl of Markarth or Jarl of Whiterun? Ulfric's not a user then is that what you're saying? Three of the four people I listed were quite powerful but they ALL shared one thing in common... they had something Ulfric needed so he used them at their expense. Come to think of it, he used the Thalmor too but they wanted him to.

I dunno about you Stormcloaks. Alot of wide-eyed dreamers in here... lots of honest hearts but the problem with an honest man is you never know when they're lying.

Wait a minute... He's a Legate! Member of the Imperial Legion! Of course he backs them! This was a diversion created by the Thalmor!

Fellow Kinsmen, we have been deceived by the elves!

Na just this elf. fl*ff the Thalmor. Even still... you can't help but respect them though. Their ingenuity... all the time they put into their work.

 

[Mikulas Black-Blade]

Is that so? Then, he didn't use Torygg and Rogvir either? He didn't use the Jarl of Markarth or Jarl of Whiterun? Ulfric's not a user then is that what you're saying? Three of the four people I listed were quite powerful but they ALL shared one thing in common... they had something Ulfric needed so he used them at their expense. Come to think of it, he used the Thalmor too but they wanted him to.

I dunno about you Stormcloaks. Alot of wide-eyed dreamers in here... lots of honest hearts but the problem with an honest man is you never know when they're lying.

Wait a minute... He's a Legate! Member of the Imperial Legion! Of course he backs them! This was a diversion created by the Thalmor!

Fellow Kinsmen, we have been deceived by the elves!

Once more we will take the fight to them as we did before brother. Only then will we stop there reign of Terror. Ysgramor and the 500 will smile upon us from the Hall of Valor and our names will echo in Sovngarde.

 

[LegateFasendil]

He doesn't know you're the Dragonborn or not until you've joined unless you did Season Unending. Even so a "big bad xenophobic racist like Ulfric" Still would not use you regardless of your power.

Is that so? Then, he didn't use Torygg and Rogvir either? He didn't use the Jarl of Markarth or Jarl of Whiterun? Ulfric's not a user then is that what you're saying? Three of the four people I listed were quite powerful but they ALL shared one thing in common... they had something Ulfric needed so he used them at their expense. Come to think of it, he used the Thalmor too but they wanted him to.

I dunno about you Stormcloaks. Alot of wide-eyed dreamers in here... lots of honest hearts but the problem with an honest man is you never know when they're lying.

1.) I'm saying he would not employ you into his army. By "use" I meant "enlist". A true racist wouldn't enlist someone if they were a different race regardless of skill.
2.) How did he use Roggvir exactly? he had no Idea he had died or even who he was.
3.) All those people mentioned above were Nords Sooo.

Really? So how many racists were slave owners back in the day? And I'm not just talking about America. Have you ever heard of the term 'conscript'? England conscripted lots of Irish as cannon-fodder during their problems with Ireland.

Roggvir allowed Ulfric to escape. Killing the High King was an act of war against the Empire. Roggvir was an accomplice for letting him go.

 

[Mikulas Black-Blade]

He maybe a Stormcloak sympathizer but he isn't part of the Stormcloaks. He's just a drunken lout.

What are you talking? Ulfric's steward does do stuffs in the hold. He hired and gave authorization to the Dragonborn to investigate the murders in his hold. He entrusted the Dragonborn to give him full report, and even went over to one of the guards, and had the court wizard arrested for the murders.

The Markarth problems are coming from a corrupted IMPERIAL Jarl who is indulging himself in gold coin.

Rearek: "Igmund, we need to talk about the Silver-Blood family."
Igmund: "What about them? They seem loyal enough."
Rearek: "Loyal? Thongvor supports Ulfric and his Stormcloaks! We should imprison the entire family as a precaution."
Faleen: "I second that, Igmund. Who knows what that family will do for power? They could be working with the Forsworn, for all we know."
Igmund: "Enough! We can't imprison the very people that own the jail we would be throwing them into. The Silver-Blood family are to be left alone, am I clear?"
Faleen: "Yes, my Jarl."
Rearek: "Yes, my Jarl."

I'm not saying he is a Stormcloak, but in his mind he's acting upon their behalf. The Stormcloaks are either ignoring his actions or accepting them, either way it is bad.

He was barely investigating the murders, handing it over to you doesn't mean he's doing anything for the Hold.

Asking Jorleif what duties he performs for the Jarl while Ulfric controls the city will have him say: "For Ulfric? Oh, nothing official. Known him for years. He seems to value my thoughts, and I'm grateful for that. I don't really have a mind for war, and I think he likes having an untrained opinion from time to time."

So Igmund is now corrupt because he won't throw the Silver-Bloods in jail? For what crime? he doesn't exactly have evidence to just throw them in prison, not to mention the prison is guarded by Silver-Blood mercenaries...

What makes you think that? Just because I am not on when that account is on? Maybe I do not get on a lot. If that person said they were me, they were probably lying for laughs. I do not think any number of accounts belong to you just because they do not post for any length of time when you are active.

I'm not playing this game, everyone has known it was you for ages. It has nothing to do with being on at the same time, but the fact you argue the same and personality is the same.

I've debated with all of you for a long time, does everyone think I'm that ignorant when some of you go on alt accounts?

heres some cut dialogue from the cut Battle of Marlarth:
Thongvor:"Ready to listen to the Silver-Blood family now, Igmund?"
Igmund:"Thongvor. I should have executed your whole treacherous clan when I had the chance."
Thongvor:"Don't worry. We'll take good care of your city when you're gone. When Ulfric Stormcloak becomes High King, Skyrim will finally be the way my ancestors intended. It's a new day in Markarth."
Galmar:"Are you two quite done? You, go pack your things. And you, go sit on that damn chair and start acting like a Jarl."
Thongvor:"Come Galmar, we have much to do."
Igmund:"The Empire will return. Count on it."

 

[Mikulas Black-Blade]

Is that so? Then, he didn't use Torygg and Rogvir either? He didn't use the Jarl of Markarth or Jarl of Whiterun? Ulfric's not a user then is that what you're saying? Three of the four people I listed were quite powerful but they ALL shared one thing in common... they had something Ulfric needed so he used them at their expense. Come to think of it, he used the Thalmor too but they wanted him to.

I dunno about you Stormcloaks. Alot of wide-eyed dreamers in here... lots of honest hearts but the problem with an honest man is you never know when they're lying.

1.) I'm saying he would not employ you into his army. By "use" I meant "enlist". A true racist wouldn't enlist someone if they were a different race regardless of skill.
2.) How did he use Roggvir exactly? he had no Idea he had died or even who he was.
3.) All those people mentioned above were Nords Sooo.

Really? So how many racists were slave owners back in the day? And I'm not just talking about America. Have you ever heard of the term 'conscript'? England conscripted lots of Irish as cannon-fodder during their problems with Ireland.

Roggvir allowed Ulfric to escape. Killing the High King was an act of war against the Empire. Roggvir was an accomplice for letting him go.

But not an accomplice Ulfric knew. Ulfric doesn't own any Slaves so whats your point?

 

[DrunkenMage]

heres some cut dialogue from the cut Battle of Marlarth:
Thongvor:"Ready to listen to the Silver-Blood family now, Igmund?"
Igmund:"Thongvor. I should have executed your whole treacherous clan when I had the chance."
Thongvor:"Don't worry. We'll take good care of your city when you're gone. When Ulfric Stormcloak becomes High King, Skyrim will finally be the way my ancestors intended. It's a new day in Markarth."
Galmar:"Are you two quite done? You, go pack your things. And you, go sit on that damn chair and start acting like a Jarl."
Thongvor:"Come Galmar, we have much to do."
Igmund:"The Empire will return. Count on it."

This shows what exactly?

 

[Mikulas Black-Blade]

heres some cut dialogue from the cut Battle of Marlarth:
Thongvor:"Ready to listen to the Silver-Blood family now, Igmund?"
Igmund:"Thongvor. I should have executed your whole treacherous clan when I had the chance."
Thongvor:"Don't worry. We'll take good care of your city when you're gone. When Ulfric Stormcloak becomes High King, Skyrim will finally be the way my ancestors intended. It's a new day in Markarth."
Galmar:"Are you two quite done? You, go pack your things. And you, go sit on that damn chair and start acting like a Jarl."
Thongvor:"Come Galmar, we have much to do."
Igmund:"The Empire will return. Count on it."

This shows what exactly?

That he had a reason to arrest them.

 

[Jeremius]

What makes you think that? Just because I am not on when that account is on? Maybe I do not get on a lot. If that person said they were me, they were probably lying for laughs. I do not think any number of accounts belong to you just because they do not post for any length of time when you are active.

I'm not playing this game, everyone has known it was you for ages. It has nothing to do with being on at the same time, but the fact you argue the same and personality is the same.

I've debated with all of you for a long time, does everyone think I'm that ignorant when some of you go on alt accounts?

Who cares about the account. What Account is responding to you has no bearing on this topic, same as the mine, as it is just a mine.

If that is an alt account, it is probably the one I try to throw stuff unrelated to the topic to mess with people.

 

[UltraXPowerGuy]

Who cares about the account. What Account is responding to you has no bearing on this topic, same as the mine, as it is just a mine.

So you are switching accounts?

 

[Jeremius]

Who cares about the account. What Account is responding to you has no bearing on this topic, same as the mine, as it is just a mine.

So you are switching accounts?

Perhaps Stone and I just happen to have the same opinions and "personality" in regards to things.

 

[UltraXPowerGuy]

Perhaps Stone and I just happen to have the same opinions and "personality" in regards to things.

Yeah, but your not dening it. A simple no would have been sufficient. Do you switch accounts?

 

[Jeremius]

Perhaps Stone and I just happen to have the same opinions and "personality" in regards to things.

Yeah, but your not dening it. A simple no would have been sufficient. Do you switch accounts?

I am no admitting either. I probably just go off when he is on because I do not feel like saying anything.