If what you're saying is true... that the Imperials knows that the Thalmor are behind what is happening in Skyrim, which includes the General... Why they're continuing to feed the Thalmor what they truly desires? To have men fighting against each other so that when the Great War resumes that man would be easily defeated due to lack of resources. Don't you think that the Imperials should act professional, and reason with the Stormcloaks instead of fighting with them? Instead of doing what the Thalmor desires... Tullius should have Legate Rikke go to Windhelm to try to reason with Ulfric, to negotiate with him so that both sides can be satisfied. Perhaps the Empire should surrender Skyrim over to Ulfric in return long life relationship between two countries. That is what I would try to do if I was in the legion shoes. The Thalmor would NEVER dream of the Empire building up an alliance with the Stormcloaks. This would be a HUGE backfire, and besides after the Empire hands over Skyrim to Ulfric the WGC would be invalid thus Ulfrics soldiers would then drive the Thalmor that's already in Skyrim out of the country, and the country can soon rebuild. The Blades would have a safe haven to rebuild, and would be a great asset if persuaded to join in the resumed war against the Aldmeri Dominion... I don't think they would say no, since their already at war with them already.
Like I said Tullius needs to stop feeding the elves because that's exactly what they want, and so far their getting it.
Is the other way around
The Empire needs Skyrim more than Skyrim needs the Empire.
Oh Tullius I'm appalled in your leadership. This whole entire time you knew that this is what the Thalmor had wanted and YOU deliberately giving in to what they wanted this entire time?!??! You just now say this just when you're about to die? Shame on you. Go meet your new masters in Oblivion
Ulfric doesn't want an all out war against the Empire because their not the true target. Why should he go after the Empire when his primary objective is to go after the elves? Ulfric knows his limits. Hes no fool. If he does kill the Emperor all of his planning to go after the elves will go to wastes because he would be dealing with the Empire instead.
I can agree with this part. Man should unite (even if it's temporary) for this special occasion. The Stormcloaks and the Empire should work together instead of fighting with each other. Hammerfell should also unite, even if it's temp.
In my POV you don't need to be part of the Empire... or even a province of the Empire to fight against the elves. You're fighting to prove your strength and domination. To prove that you're not the beta but an ALPHA. To prove to the elves that you are far more superior than they are. The elves from the Aldmeri Dominion are way past due for an ass kicking by man. I can only hope that Bethesda would create something like this.
Ulfric isn't destroying Talos Empire because Mede already did by banning the worship of Talos. It was a big thing back in Oblivion years... I can only imagine how depressing the Imperial city looks now. Those beautiful statues of Talos gone because of Mede II.
Jora:"You know about Talos? He founded the Empire!"
Jora:"We're the only Temple in Skyrim that can openly worship Talos."
Jora: "Those awful Thalmor can't touch us, thanks to Ulfric."
Jora: "I can't believe the Empire would turn its back on Talos."
Jora gives you some background about Talos: "Talos, who in life was known as Tiber Septim, united Tamriel and founded the Empire. He was rewarded for his deeds by being joined with the Divines in eternal glory. The only mortal to do so. We worship him that we might follow in his path. We can't literally join him in the heavens, but we may do our best to know them here on Nirn."
Jora: "The Empire's elven puppetmasters never cared much for the idea of a human becoming a divine. So the worship of Talos is outlawed. Skyrim doesn't take kindly to being told what to do. And to try and forget Talos, well... they may as well ordered us all to cut off our ears."
If the Imperials win the civil war this is the dialogue that she gives to you.
Jora: "
Ulfric Stormcloak was a true hero of Skyrim. He stood up to the Thalmor and refused to turn his back on Talos." and "The Stormcloaks are gone, but
Talos will never be forgotten. I don't care what the Thalmor say!"
When asked what she feels about Ulfric’s death, she will angrily say: "I don't care what the Imperials say -- when Ulfric Stormcloak died, one of Skyrim's greatest heroes was lost.
Now at last, the Thalmor will get their way. The worship of Talos will finally be stamped out. Or so they think.
Those true sons and daughters of Skyrim will never cease to worship mighty Talos. If we cannot do so in our temples, we will do so in our hearts. Oblivion take the Thalmor!
I'll never give up Talos, not even if it means my life. Let them come and make me a martyr!"
Jora - pro Stormcloak Talos priestess
Lortheim: "I've spent my life serving Talos. I don't plan to stop now,
no matter what the Empire says."
Lortheim: "Talos created the Empire. You'd think they'd show him more respect."
If the Imperials win the war
Lortheim: "With Ulfric dead and the Stormcloaks gone, who will have the courage to champion the cause of Talos?"
If it wasn't for the protection of Ulfric both Lortheim and Jora would've been snatched up by the Thalmor by now, and tossed away in their Thalmor run prison all thanks to the Empire and their damn treaty.
