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Ulfrick working for the Thalmor!

Yes. WOW! INDULGE THE GLORY OF THE GREAT DAGMAR!

One of the problems in being a Stormcloak is that Dagmar renders your argument invalid. Keep that in mind

She'll beat down anyone, Stormcloaks or Imperials it doesn't matter. Mainly Stormcloaks since they bring up invalid and illogical arguments. Though she won't hesitate to smack you down if you're an Imperial, she's given me several good beatings. So you make sure in every argument you do when trying to make a valid point, make sure it's correct lore wise, or the Dagmar comes around.

 
basically yes ulfric's whole civil war was a plan by the thalmor but they do not expect him to gain complete control which he can so either way the thalmor are not benefiting at all.
 
basically yes ulfric's whole civil war was a plan by the thalmor but they do not expect him to gain complete control which he can so either way the thalmor are not benefiting at all.
Actually, the Thalmor are benefiting from this rebellion.

If Ulfric and his squadron of guerrilla fighters win the civil war, the Empire would be divided, causing demoralization and loss of precious resources. Other provinces may be encouraged to do the same and waste the resources being reserved for a second Great War. If the guerrilla force picks a fight with the Dominion, they will be defeated by the more organized Elves.

If the Imperials win, their resources would be wasted as stated before and it would take longer time for preparing for an upcoming war.
 
yea I agree I was simply stating that the rebellion is good for the thalmor, but if Ulfric wins (yes the empire will be disrupted) but the stormcloaks will be a big problem for them :) also could you please check out my channel and tell me what you think (unique builds) :D
 
Actually, the Thalmor are benefiting from this rebellion.

If Ulfric and his squadron of guerrilla fighters win the civil war, the Empire would be divided, causing demoralization and loss of precious resources. Other provinces may be encouraged to do the same and waste the resources being reserved for a second Great War. If the guerrilla force picks a fight with the Dominion, they will be defeated by the more organized Elves.

If the Imperials win, their resources would be wasted as stated before and it would take longer time for preparing for an upcoming war.
Forgot the press reply but yea ^^^
 
There is no such thing as a "proper vote". If you knew anything about the history of Skyrim you would know why. The First Empire of the Nords fell apart because the Jarls were allowed a "proper vote" so through the Pact of Chieftains they collectively decided that was never going to happen again, and the Moot was stripped of all of its powers but one, to select a new High King when there is no lineal heir. You may think it's unfair but the Nords of Skyrim don't agree with you.
It gives absolutely no credence to what you claimed.


In point of fact your claim is simply false on its face. Adding a meaninglessly subjective term like "wholeheartedly" does nothing to change that fact if for no other reason than DrunkenMage never attached any subjective adjective to the fact that Skyrim accepted the terms of the treaty. He didn't need to do so because the fact speaks for itself.
It's a fact. If you prefer to characterize facts as a cop-out and not address them because they don't favor your speculations that's your prerogative but it only further undermines your already weak propositions.
It doesn't seem one dimensional. It is one dimensional. Characterizing it as a bribe is spin. Factually all it is is money given to each Jarl to use in a manner he or she deems fit. The United States federal government does this all the time when it sends more in federal funds than it receives in tax revenues from some states (while doing the reverse for others).
There is broken masonry in a state of disrepair all over the city. It's observable here and all over the city. Your opinions about the marketplace, the docks etc. are merely that and do nothing to refute the fact that the city is falling apart in places.
This statement is a falsehood as DrunkenMage has already pointed out. It also does absolutely nothing to refute the fact that Ulfric's actions are the cause of the extremely heightened level of enforcement of the ban on worshiping Talos by the Thalmor Justiciars.
It's not a reasonable point. It is complete nonsense to anyone who has seen a map of Tamriel and also has more than a nominal amount of common sense. There isn't a single province in Tamriel where a more direct path to the Empire wouldn't make exponentially more sense (this has already been discussed numerous times in analyzing how well an independent Skyrim itself would be protected against a naval invasion from the Aldmeri Dominion), and Ulfric would have to be a gibbering mouth drooling moron to allow any invasion sized force from another province to move through Skyrim because of the inherent threat that would represent to Skyrim itself.
You're entitled to your own opinion, but it's completely unsupported and largely contradicted by the facts regardless of whether you choose to agree or disagree as to their existence.
Yeah, like I said to your boyfriend DrunkenMage, we'll have to agree to disagree. Been fun arguing with you two though I must admit. Love your work. Enjoy!:)
 
Yeah, like I said to your boyfriend DrunkenMage, we'll have to agree to disagree. Been fun arguing with you two though I must admit. Love your work. Enjoy!:)

I think she likes me!
You're too cocky. And I think it was a bad idea saying the last line.
 
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