Smithing Question Halp.

[Muncywolverine]

Ello thar,

Skyrim noob here. Someone please explain this to me, if i get my smithing skill high enough can i make my weapons superior + without the perk? Like, do i need the "Dwarven smithing" perk to upgrade my "Dwarven Greatsword" to superior quality? Or will i be able to after a certian smithing level?

Thx in advance,

MuncyWolverine

 

[WrxScooby]

If you want to make the weapon as strong as possible you need the perk plus level 100 smithing.

So for example if I want to make the strongest dwarven sword ideally you want to be level 100 in smithing plus you want to have the dwarven perk.

On the flip side if I wanted to better my dwarven sword but went the path of light armor smithing and don't have the perk, you would still be able to improve it but not as much and it would stop you at I believe "Flawless" oppose to the best being "legendary"

Hope that helps in some way.

 

[Perkless in Skyrim]

Correct. You don't need a perk to improve weapons and armor beyond Superior quality. Once you reach 100 in Smithing you can create weapons and armor of Flawless quality. To get higher than that you need to invest perks and/or use magical enhancement.

 

[Neriad13]

To be able to improve Dwarven weapons, you have to have the Dwarven perk. Otherwise you can't do a thing with that sword, besides enchanting it.

 

[Perkless in Skyrim]

To be able to improve Dwarven weapons, you have to have the Dwarven perk. Otherwise you can't do a thing with that sword, besides enchanting it.

I have no perks in anything but I can improve non magical weapons I've found. I just can't make them myself if they're not iron.

 

[Neriad13]

I have no perks in anything but I can improve non magical weapons I've found. I just can't make them myself if they're not iron.

Huh. I guess I just never tried it.

 

[Su8tle]

Taken from: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Smithing


Item Quality

Using the Grindstone/Workbench allows the refinement of weapon/armor depending on the character's Smithing level. The levels of item qualities are Fine, Superior, Exquisite, Flawless, Epic, and Legendary. The Smithing level required to unlock these qualities depends upon whether the character has the Smithing perk of the item's material.
QualitySkill RequiredEffect
Without PerkWith PerkArmorOther
Fine 14 14 +2 +1 1.15x
Superior 31 22 +6 +3 1.3x
Exquisite 65 40 +10 +5 1.5x
Flawless 100 57 +13 +7 1.65x
Epic 134 74 +17 +8 1.82x
Legendary 168 91 +20 +10 2.0x

• For instance, say you have a Smithing level of 45 (with Dwarven Smithing perk), and pieces of Elven and Dwarven equipment you want to improve. With appropriate supplies, you would improve the Dwarven to Exquisite, but the Elven only to Superior.
• Smithing skills higher than 100 can be attained using "Fortify Smithing" equipment and potions, thus allowing any item to be made Epic or Legendary.
• Quality levels continue past Legendary, although the displayed quality will not reflect that. Each new level increases armor ratings by 3.6 and weapon ratings by 1.8, resulting in an increase of about +0.1 per effective skill point for armor, and +0.05 for other items.
• For improving enchanted items, only the base value of the item is multiplied.

 

[sml-2727]

Also, look in your potions, some can help your smithing for 30-40 seconds.

 

[Su8tle]

You can steal 2x +20% smithing potions from Alvor's basement in Riverwood.

Get on it.