What is going to happen to us console players when Online comes out?

[JClarke1953]

Well, if it does go online, I'll not be one to go along. I played online for some year's, CS 1.6 is one, then the Alien's vs Marine's, then a war game (flying jets, helicopters, driving vehicles). Then WoW. I did that for several year's, then it started getting to a point of people doing their own thing, even in dungeon's that literally required their co-operation in order to beat the place.

I then realized online gaming had changed, and people are going to do as they wish, even if they're on a team. It's like driving, one cannot control what other's will do or not do. Hollering, screaming, the finger or attempts to retaliate are fruitless. So, mainly because of how so many play online without regard to the team or side they're on, I won't do the online game anymore.

And as a side note, another is the language. I'm almost 60, and am no angel by any means. But the language that goes on, especially in console game's that aren't moderated, is awful. I've heard foul language from quite young player's, and more so from female's (I use that term, as there's no way to really determine age online), and word's that I either quit saying year's ago.

 

[Skulli]

Well, if it does go online, I'll not be one to go along. I played online for some year's, CS 1.6 is one, then the Alien's vs Marine's, then a war game (flying jets, helicopters, driving vehicles). Then WoW. I did that for several year's, then it started getting to a point of people doing their own thing, even in dungeon's that literally required their co-operation in order to beat the place.

I then realized online gaming had changed, and people are going to do as they wish, even if they're on a team. It's like driving, one cannot control what other's will do or not do. Hollering, screaming, the finger or attempts to retaliate are fruitless. So, mainly because of how so many play online without regard to the team or side they're on, I won't do the online game anymore.

And as a side note, another is the language. I'm almost 60, and am no angel by any means. But the language that goes on, especially in console game's that aren't moderated, is awful. I've heard foul language from quite young player's, and more so from female's (I use that term, as there's no way to really determine age online), and word's that I either quit saying year's ago.

I'm 51 myself, and after almost 8 years of Warcraft, I've gotten quite familiar with the filthy mouths on MMO players...however, even Blizzard implemented reporting features to penalize the worst & most frequent offenders.

In general, most playerbase in these games suck, but if a game is really, really good enough, I'd still most likely give it a whirl. I spent many years working in the prison system, so foul language in and of itself won't necessarily hold me back at the start.

 

[JClarke1953]

I dunno, the first time I did online with the 360 in CoH, I heard language that I'd stopped using or saying year's ago. What really put me off (yes, this will sound sexist), was that it came from what sounded like a young teenaged girl.

 

[Squirrel_killer-]

I forget where I saw this but I believe I read something about there being an expressed interest to maintain the MMO and AND single player series. The MMO takes place a few hundred years in the past and is bound in chains by lore. It is a dead end in many ways for expansion they could only release things for so long, eventually leading to the point where it rams the single player games up the ass as it follows the existing lore, which it will be forced to do for the main part, and die because at that point it is mimicking the single player games in events. Honestly I think they will continue to make both games until one or both sink. If the MMO goes console (which is possible as there are a few console MMOs on PS3 already) then it may do better than expected, but some people, such as myself, just don't enjoy PC gaming, despite the many advantages PC gamers waste time trying to rub in our face. I simply prefer console in most respects. But that is a discussion for else where, now then since Bethesda is not making ESO I see no change in the future of the single player series, it would cost both Bethesda and ZeniMax money to discontinue the TES. Multiplayer dominates shooters easily, but RPGs will never be dominated by multiplayer to the same degree, just too many people want a good story line based game.

I personally may or may not play the MMO since I honestly can't stand the lack of team work that takes place in those type of games. I normally take a group of my personal friends, who I trust and who I know, and we have been taking advantage of each others skills and play styles for a long time. We all have a system of organization within our group and we use each others tactics to the advantage of each other. When I play out side my circle of friends I find people are doing their own things and calling people whoo avoid a fight when they are half dead noobs because I haven't wasted all my time on one game.

 

[JClarke1953]

Perhaps someone would start a poll on this? Bethesda says they read these Forums, so perhaps if they saw that going online might not be in everyone's best interest? By everyone I mean those who'd make money from online, and those of us who won't spend the money.

To me, as I stated earlier, because of how online gaming has changed, and there's pretty much no thought of "decorum" or consideration of other's, as it used to be, I'll be finding another game.

 

[Dagmar]

....Also, many people have been saying "ShangTsung" in particular about frame rate drops, and that really has nothing to do with the GPU, but the CPU....

This is incorrect. The CPU, GPU and System Memory all can affect frame rates. System Memory has the least effect but most of the games will take a big hit in frame rates if your video card is weak, and for Skyrim having a weak video card instead of a high end one can result in a difference of over 40 fps. When people post in the Help forum about low frame rates the vast majority of the time the problem is isolated down to a weak GPU.

 

[Tyer032392]

This is incorrect. The CPU, GPU and System Memory all can affect frame rates. System Memory has the least effect but most of the games will take a big hit in frame rates if your video card is weak, and for Skyrim having a weak video card instead of a high end one can result in a difference of over 40 fps. When people post in the Help forum about low frame rates the vast majority of the time the problem is isolated down to a weak GPU.

Let me rephrase that, it really depends on what the persons system has. I find that the vast majority of people who complain about low frame rates in most game have weak CPU's that can bottleneck the GPU, or vice versa. Other times it is because the person has to little RAM (Random Access Memory; for those who do not know), or it could be because that Person does not have enough VRAM at their disposal. Other times it usually boils down to people just needing to update their drivers, or that their computer is running to hot. This in of itself is why most people say console gaming is superior to PC gaming because they do not have to worry about this; however, to me, I think it is usually worth the investment and head ache to work on computers myself as it is always a rewarding experience. Heck, I built by computer all by myself, and even did some of its programming, and even have had experience in programming so programs.

 

[ShangTsung]

Let me rephrase that, it really depends on what the persons system has. I find that the vast majority of people who complain about low frame rates in most game have weak CPU's that can bottleneck the GPU, or vice versa. Other times it is because the person has to little RAM (Random Access Memory; for those who do not know), or it could be because that Person does not have enough VRAM at their disposal. Other times it usually boils down to people just needing to update their drivers, or that their computer is running to hot. This in of itself is why most people say console gaming is superior to PC gaming because they do not have to worry about this; however, to me, I think it is usually worth the investment and head ache to work on computers myself as it is always a rewarding experience. Heck, I built by computer all by myself, and even did some of its programming, and even have had experience in programming so programs.

my pc was custom designed and cost a good 1400$, also has the best video card i could find installed, and this thing can't even play tes oblivion without studdering like its having a seizure..

 

[Skulli]

I have a 5 year old HP Pavilion.

I recently added a $75 video card and $50 650 watt power supply. I can run Skyrim on all High settings, provided I reduce the grass settings, and I have no issues at all, even with over 70 mods.

 

[ShangTsung]

I have a 5 year old HP Pavilion.

I recently added a $75 video card and $50 650 watt power supply. I can run Skyrim on all High settings, provided I reduce the grass settings, and I have no issues at all, even with over 70 mods.

hey, some guys are lucky, some aren't.. me, i can't even play postal 2 without graphic hiccups..

 

[Dagmar]

my pc was custom designed and cost a good 1400$, also has the best video card i could find installed, and this thing can't even play tes oblivion without studdering like its having a seizure..

There's no way a $1,400 custom built desktop should have problems with running Oblivion unless it was custom built over a decade ago. If you built it you did something seriously wrong and if someone else did you got ripped off. If you run Dx Diag to get your hardware specs and post it we can see what's really under the hood.

 

[ShangTsung]

There's no way a $1,400 custom built desktop should have problems with running Oblivion unless it was custom built over a decade ago. If you built it you did something seriously wrong and if someone else did you got ripped off. If you run Dx Diag to get your hardware specs and post it we can see what's really under the hood.

got it about 2 years ago, its not old.. and i got geek squad homie.. lol when i need something serious looked at on my pc i don't risk further screwing it by trying to do it myself, i dig deep into my wallet and call the big dogs.. costly as hell but atleast i know it'll be done right. they have basically told me what i already know, that NO pc is going to play a game perfectly, even if it comes from bill gates himself! they weren't designed for it, they were designed for web browsing..

 

[Dagmar]

...and i got geek squad homie...

I hope you're not referring to the Geek Squad from Best Buy because those guys can be largely clueless about PCs. I watched the eyes of one of them at my local store glaze over when I began to talk about chip architecture of the various hardware components of an Asus gaming laptop they were selling. The fact that they would say something as lame as no PC playing a game perfectly to explain away your performance issues only seems to support the likelihood that they don't know what the hell they're talking about. A gaming PC is designed for gaming not web browsing. You got ripped off. If you want to post your stats from a Dx Diag report people can tell you just how badly you got ripped off.

 

[Tyer032392]

I hope you're not referring to the Geek Squad from Best Buy because those guys can be largely clueless about PCs. I watched the eyes of one of them at my local store glaze over when I began to talk about chip architecture of the various hardware components of an Asus gaming laptop they were selling. The fact that they would say something as lame as no PC playing a game perfectly to explain away your performance issues only seems to support the likelihood that they don't know what the hell they're talking about. A gaming PC is designed for gaming not web browsing. You got ripped off. If you want to post your stats from a Dx Diag report people can tell you just how badly you got ripped off.

From reading what this guy has said so far, I think I might know what is going on with his PC.

1) As you said, he got ripped off. ShangTsung, you know that you can order a computer off of the web with specification of what you want, right?

2) This is the most likely culprit. He has the wrong drivers installed. Maybe he has a 32bit driver versus the 64bit.

3) The PSU isn't giving enough power to his computer, or it is overheating.

 

[ShangTsung]

I hope you're not referring to the Geek Squad from Best Buy because those guys can be largely clueless about PCs. I watched the eyes of one of them at my local store glaze over when I began to talk about chip architecture of the various hardware components of an Asus gaming laptop they were selling. The fact that they would say something as lame as no PC playing a game perfectly to explain away your performance issues only seems to support the likelihood that they don't know what the hell they're talking about. A gaming PC is designed for gaming not web browsing. You got ripped off. If you want to post your stats from a Dx Diag report people can tell you just how badly you got ripped off.

then perhaps you should be working for them since u know so much more, sorry but i don't know how to respond to this.. no offense but i'm just explaining my situation, believe what you want, i personally have never once seen a pc play any current gen game flawlessly, not saying it isn't possible, i've just never seen it done before.

 

[Tyer032392]

got it about 2 years ago, its not old.. and i got geek squad homie.. lol when i need something serious looked at on my pc i don't risk further screwing it by trying to do it myself, i dig deep into my wallet and call the big dogs.. costly as hell but atleast i know it'll be done right. they have basically told me what i already know, that NO pc is going to play a game perfectly, even if it comes from bill gates himself! they weren't designed for it, they were designed for web browsing..

Can you please just post a DxDiag so that we can see what you have under the hood of your computer.

 

[ShangTsung]

Can you please just post a DxDiag so that we can see what you have under the hood of your computer.

i have no clue what a "dxdiag" is m8.

 

[Tyer032392]

i have no clue what a "dxdiag" is m8.

A DxDiag is a diagnostic toll used to tell what type of equipment you have in your computer. It gives the basic information like what type of CPU, GPU, how much RAM, VRAM, extc you have in your computer. It will also tell us what your drivers are, and if they need to be updated.

To access DxDIAG:

Windows 7: Go to Start; type in DxDiag in the "search programs and files" bar at the very bottom and click on the link that pops up. Once you get the DxDiag to run, Copy it on a note pad and paste it to this forum. This is what it should look like.

Edit: Also be sure to save it as DxDiag under notepad so you have access to it in the future.

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System Information
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Time of this report: 11/22/2012, 14:51:47
Machine name: TYLER-PC
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120830-0333)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: BIOS Date: 09/11/09 12:19:11 Ver: 08.00.15
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.2GHz
Memory: 6144MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 6144MB RAM
Page File: 2312MB used, 9972MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
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DXVA-HD: Not Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
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Sound Devices
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Description: Speakers (High Definition Audio Device)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_1106&DEV_0397&SUBSYS_1043836C&REV_1000
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 65535
Type: WDM
Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 11/20/2010 04:44:23, 350208 bytes
Other Files:
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HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
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HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

Description: Digital Audio (HDMI) (High Definition Audio Device)
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
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Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

Description: Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
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Product ID: 65535
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Other Files:
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Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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Sound Capture Devices
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Description: Microphone (USB PnP Audio Device)
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: USBAUDIO.sys
Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 11/20/2010 04:43:52, 109696 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

Description: Line In (High Definition Audio Device)
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No
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Description: Microphone (High Definition Audio Device)
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No
Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
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Driver Attributes: Final Retail
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DirectInput Devices
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Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: USB PnP Audio Device
Attached: 1
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Device Name: GASIA
Attached: 1
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Device Name: GASIA
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Poll w/ Interrupt: No

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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1002, 0x4398
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
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+-+ USB Input Device
| | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC018
| | Location: Port_#0001.Hub_#0002
| | Matching Device ID: generic_hid_device
| | Service: HidUsb
| |
| +-+ HID-compliant mouse
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC018
| | | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| | | Service: mouhid

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Gameport Devices
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PS/2 Devices
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+ HID Keyboard Device
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x0E8F, 0x0021
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
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+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
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+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Drive: C:
Free Space: 289.1 GB
Total Space: 715.3 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: WDC WD7501AALS-00J7B1 ATA Device

Drive: D:
Model: ASUS DRW-2014L1 ATA Device
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), , 0 bytes

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System Devices
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Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4397&SUBSYS_43981002&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&98
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
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Driver: n/a

Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4397&SUBSYS_43971002&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&90
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1204&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C4
Driver: n/a

Name: ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68B8&SUBSYS_25431002&REV_00\4&204EAC5&0&0010
Driver: n/a

Name: Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4396&SUBSYS_43971002&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&92
Driver: n/a

Name: Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 PCI-E Ethernet Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1969&DEV_1026&SUBSYS_831C1043&REV_B0\4&C21189&0&0030
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1203&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C3
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard ISA bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_439D&SUBSYS_43831002&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&A3
Driver: n/a

Name: Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4396&SUBSYS_43961002&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&9A
Driver: n/a

Name: VIA 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3403&SUBSYS_83841043&REV_00\4&32CBD392&0&0038
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1202&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C2
Driver: n/a

Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_439C&SUBSYS_439C1002&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&A1
Driver: n/a

Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4390&SUBSYS_43901002&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&88
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_9607&SUBSYS_96001022&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&38
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1201&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C1
Driver: n/a

Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4399&SUBSYS_43961002&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&A5
Driver: n/a

Name: ATI I/O Communications Processor SMBus Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4385&SUBSYS_43851002&REV_3C\3&267A616A&0&A0
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_9606&SUBSYS_96001022&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&30
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1200&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C0
Driver: n/a

Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4398&SUBSYS_43991002&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&99
Driver: n/a

Name: ATI I/O Communications Processor PCI Bus Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4384&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&A4
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_9603&SUBSYS_96001022&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&10
Driver: n/a

Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_AA58&SUBSYS_AA581002&REV_00\4&204EAC5&0&0110
Driver: n/a

Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4398&SUBSYS_43981002&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&91
Driver: n/a

Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4383&SUBSYS_83571043&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&A2
Driver: n/a
Please note that there is more after this but I don't want to spam this thread.

 

[Dagmar]

...then perhaps you should be working for them since u know so much more...

They can't afford me. The salaries they offer aren't even in the same continent let alone the same neighborhood as my current compensation. I had a friend who worked for a year on the Geek Squad. He quit as soon as he could get a better job.

 

[ShangTsung]

A DxDiag is a diagnostic toll used to tell what type of equipment you have in your computer. It gives the basic information like what type of CPU, GPU, how much RAM, VRAM, extc you have in your computer. It will also tell us what your drivers are, and if they need to be updated.

To access DxDIAG:

Windows 7: Go to Start; type in DxDiag in the "search programs and files" bar at the very bottom and click on the link that pops up. Once you get the DxDiag to run, Copy it on a note pad and paste it to this forum. This is what it should look like.

Edit: Also be sure to save it as DxDiag under notepad so you have access to it in the future.

------------------
System Information
------------------
Time of this report: 11/22/2012, 14:51:47
Machine name: TYLER-PC
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120830-0333)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: BIOS Date: 09/11/09 12:19:11 Ver: 08.00.15
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.2GHz
Memory: 6144MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 6144MB RAM
Page File: 2312MB used, 9972MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

------------
DxDiag Notes
------------
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

--------------------
DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

---------------
Display Devices
---------------
Card name: ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series
Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x68B8)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68B8&SUBSYS_25431002&REV_00
Display Memory: 3828 MB
Dedicated Memory: 1012 MB
Shared Memory: 2815 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (59Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: Acer P215H
Monitor Id: ACR00F0
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: DVI
Driver Name: aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1151 (English)
Driver Version: 9.2.0.0
DDI Version: 11
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 9/27/2012 19:41:40, 1120768 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-2BF8-11CF-CD77-4905BEC2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x68B8
SubSys ID: 0x25431002
Revision ID: 0x0000
Driver Strong Name: oem34.inf:ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.1:ati2mtag_Evergreen:9.2.0.0ci\ven_1002&dev_68b8
Rank Of Driver: 00E62001
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(S340,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
D3D9 Overlay: Not Supported
DXVA-HD: Not Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

-------------
Sound Devices
-------------
Description: Speakers (High Definition Audio Device)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_1106&DEV_0397&SUBSYS_1043836C&REV_1000
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 65535
Type: WDM
Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 11/20/2010 04:44:23, 350208 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Microsoft
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

Description: Digital Audio (HDMI) (High Definition Audio Device)
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_1106&DEV_0397&SUBSYS_1043836C&REV_1000
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 65535
Type: WDM
Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 11/20/2010 04:44:23, 350208 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Microsoft
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

Description: Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_1106&DEV_0397&SUBSYS_1043836C&REV_1000
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 65535
Type: WDM
Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 11/20/2010 04:44:23, 350208 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Microsoft
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

---------------------
Sound Capture Devices
---------------------
Description: Microphone (USB PnP Audio Device)
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: USBAUDIO.sys
Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 11/20/2010 04:43:52, 109696 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

Description: Line In (High Definition Audio Device)
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No
Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 11/20/2010 04:44:23, 350208 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

Description: Microphone (High Definition Audio Device)
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No
Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 11/20/2010 04:44:23, 350208 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

-------------------
DirectInput Devices
-------------------
Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: USB PnP Audio Device
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x0D8C, 0x0121
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: GASIA
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x0E8F, 0x0021
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: GASIA
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x0E8F, 0x0021
FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No

-----------
USB Devices
-----------
+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1002, 0x4398
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
|
+-+ USB Input Device
| | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC018
| | Location: Port_#0001.Hub_#0002
| | Matching Device ID: generic_hid_device
| | Service: HidUsb
| |
| +-+ HID-compliant mouse
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC018
| | | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| | | Service: mouhid

----------------
Gameport Devices
----------------

------------
PS/2 Devices
------------
+ HID Keyboard Device
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x0E8F, 0x0021
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD

------------------------
Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
------------------------
Drive: C:
Free Space: 289.1 GB
Total Space: 715.3 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: WDC WD7501AALS-00J7B1 ATA Device

Drive: D:
Model: ASUS DRW-2014L1 ATA Device
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), , 0 bytes

--------------
System Devices
--------------
Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4397&SUBSYS_43981002&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&98
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_9600&SUBSYS_96001022&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&00
Driver: n/a

Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4397&SUBSYS_43971002&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&90
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1204&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C4
Driver: n/a

Name: ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68B8&SUBSYS_25431002&REV_00\4&204EAC5&0&0010
Driver: n/a

Name: Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4396&SUBSYS_43971002&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&92
Driver: n/a

Name: Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 PCI-E Ethernet Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1969&DEV_1026&SUBSYS_831C1043&REV_B0\4&C21189&0&0030
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1203&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C3
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard ISA bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_439D&SUBSYS_43831002&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&A3
Driver: n/a

Name: Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4396&SUBSYS_43961002&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&9A
Driver: n/a

Name: VIA 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3403&SUBSYS_83841043&REV_00\4&32CBD392&0&0038
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1202&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C2
Driver: n/a

Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_439C&SUBSYS_439C1002&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&A1
Driver: n/a

Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4390&SUBSYS_43901002&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&88
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_9607&SUBSYS_96001022&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&38
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1201&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C1
Driver: n/a

Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4399&SUBSYS_43961002&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&A5
Driver: n/a

Name: ATI I/O Communications Processor SMBus Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4385&SUBSYS_43851002&REV_3C\3&267A616A&0&A0
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_9606&SUBSYS_96001022&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&30
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1200&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C0
Driver: n/a

Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4398&SUBSYS_43991002&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&99
Driver: n/a

Name: ATI I/O Communications Processor PCI Bus Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4384&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&A4
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_9603&SUBSYS_96001022&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&10
Driver: n/a

Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_AA58&SUBSYS_AA581002&REV_00\4&204EAC5&0&0110
Driver: n/a

Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4398&SUBSYS_43981002&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&91
Driver: n/a

Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4383&SUBSYS_83571043&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&A2
Driver: n/a
Please note that there is more after this but I don't want to spam this thread.

seriously? lol thats ok m8, i am not going to copy paste all that, like i said believe what you want.. have you fellas ever considered the possibility that you might just be wrong about pc being this be all end all gaming beast you think it is? perhaps you just want it to be that so bad you're willing to believe it is no matter what, hey when i was a kid i used to hear genesis players argue over snes being better even when it was proven false before their very eyes.. trust me if you want to believe something bad enough you will, regardless of any facts that prove you wrong.. just something for u guys to think about.