Anouck
Queen of Procrastination
No, he isn't. Timmermans is fluent in many languages, including English. Overall most of the Dutch are fluent in English, German and they also speak bits of French. His accent though is a bit less common.
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Ukraine and Russia: are we heading for war?
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No, he isn't. Timmermans is fluent in many languages, including English. Overall most of the Dutch are fluent in English, German and they also speak bits of French. His accent though is a bit less common.
Crooksin
Glue Sniffer
http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/c...says_it_has_new_evidence_that_russian/cj6usj7
Compelling evidence that Russia is directly involving themselves in Ukraine. I've noticed Russia Today on an aggressive "US accusations based on nothing" binge as of late.
Compelling evidence that Russia is directly involving themselves in Ukraine. I've noticed Russia Today on an aggressive "US accusations based on nothing" binge as of late.
Anouck
Queen of Procrastination
I still don't think Russia itself took down the civil plane. But Putin does refuse to at least take some kind of responsibility and cries victim all the time. Even if he had no guilt in this, he is now making it very difficult for himself.
The bodies arrived last Tuesday. Two airplanes, Australian and Dutch, arrived at an airport about 30km away from my house. The families were present, too. And when the first coffin was carried out of the plane, some of the victim's family members (1200 Dutch family members were present) completely broke down. They started screaming and crying in agony, which was very difficult to listen to.
The coffins were put in hearses, which left the airport and drove in a cortège to Hilversum. Hilversum is a city in the north, and the military forensic lab is located there. Everyone was dressed in white on the family's request. People parked their cars next to the highways and during the entire route people were standing next to the roads and on the bridges, throwing flowers.
It's a tragic event, obviously. But it's good to see how people help each other and the families out.
Seanu Reaves
The Shogun of Gaming
Noooo. Don't humanize the Ruskies!!!
But seriously that is interesting. And he is probably pretty chill.
Crooksin
Glue Sniffer
I'm sure he's alright but it sort proves that Russian troops are stationed in rebel controlled territory. That's not okay.
Seanu Reaves
The Shogun of Gaming
I mean it sucks, but I think it is one on a very long list of issues and recent developments.
I mean it has relatively cooled down, though I think Russia needs repercussions for the airliner.
Crooksin
Glue Sniffer
It hasn't though, fighting is as fierce as ever. Its just we don't see it in the media as much. The last day they've calmed down only to allow observers to look at the wreckage. This is the first time since the crash that they've gotten anywhere close to it because of fighting.
Seanu Reaves
The Shogun of Gaming
Do you have links so I can read specifics?
But I think there is a very strange situation where international incidents aren't being treated as such. Cause no one wants to big a scene with all the plops around the world hitting the fan.
But I think there is a very strange situation where international incidents aren't being treated as such. Cause no one wants to big a scene with all the plops around the world hitting the fan.
Crooksin
Glue Sniffer
Russia and the West are now engaging in a tit-for-tat battle of the sanctions.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...e5a49e-1e0f-11e4-9b6c-12e30cbe86a3_story.html
Its expected, really, can't imagine Russia would take those sanctions lying down. Ukraine is now thinking of applying sanctions to Russia as well, mostly refusing to host a pipeline going through the country. Ridiculous if you ask me, Ukraine is certainly not in a position to be sanctioning either side, they may be a little too confident with their new EU relationship.
Seems as though they are stinging a bit so I imagine the West will amp their sanctions up to include the whole of Russia, not just Putin's circle. Russia exponentially increased trade with South American countries immediately following their food ban so this has been in the making for a while.
In other news, Canada has provided non-lethal humanitarian aid to the Kiev military which I am apathetic about. Canada has an extremely high population of Ukrainians but I can't help but see this move as a political move by our Prime Minister for the upcoming election, he's been very vocal about Canada's position on international issues lately which I am not a fan of.
Ukraine is wrapping up their conflict with the rebels with a final push soon so who knows what will happen after. I feel as though we've entered our generation's Cold War regardless of the result in Ukraine.
Epic Keith
By Ysmir you're going to FREEZE to death!
I think Putin is being a careless leader. Your own people come first Puts!
norsewarlord
Member
How much more this war could escalate is very confusing to me right now.
Seanu Reaves
The Shogun of Gaming
Looks like it is Cold War 2: Colder than Ever
Medea
The Shadow Queen
That's the new title for the next Expendables movie.
DrunkenMage
Intoxicated Arch-Mage
In yer pants.
